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MSI 785GM-E65 Motherboard and AMD 785G Chipset Review

MSI 785GM-E65 Motherboard and AMD 785G Chipset Review - PCSTATS
Abstract: MSI's 785GM-E65 motherboard is built around the AMD 785G and SB710 chipsets, and features 128MB integrated DDR3 SidePort memory. MSI has adapted the AMD 785G chipset into a micro-ATX form factor, an ideal size for small home and office computers, and best of all Home Theatre PCs.
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External Mfg. Website: MSI Aug 13 2009   Julian Apong  
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DX10 Motherboard IGP Benchmarks: Call of Juarez, Crysis

Call of Juarez

Source: Techland

While Call of Juarez pulls off all the classic FPS mechanisms with aplomb, it also features interesting variations that give it the air and feel of a true Western movie. The player has the genuine impression of being a pistol-packing hero in an age when armed confrontation was the daily grind for many adventurers. The Developers have incorporated a classic shooting system as well as two extra game modes.

PCSTATS Benchmark ReportCall of Juarez - DirectX10
1024x768 Low Settings: Points Ranking
Intel DG45ID (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 34.9
Intel DG45ID (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 Onboard G45 ) 5.8
Asus P5Q-EM (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 33.9
Asus P5Q-EM (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 Onboard G45 ) 6.5
ASUS M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 31
ASUS M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 onboard HD 3300 video) 25.4
ASUS M3A78-T (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 29.7
ASUS M3A78-T (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 onboard HD 3300 video) 15.6
Foxconn A7DA-S (AMD 790GX 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ GF 8800GTS 320MB) 28.9
Foxconn A7DA-S (AMD 790GX 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ onboard HD 3300 video) 13.2
MSI 785GM-E65 (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE GTS 250) 86.4
MSI 785GM-E65 (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE IGP HD 4200) 12.3
ASUS M4A785TD-V Evo (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE GTS 250) 86.2
ASUS M4A785TD-V Evo (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE IGP HD 4200) 12.5
Biostar Tpower N750 (NF 750a 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ GF 8800GTS 320MB) 28.4
Biostar Tpower N750 (NF 750a 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ onboard nF 750a video) 7.7
1600x1200 High Settings: Points Ranking
Intel DG45ID (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 7.7
Intel DG45ID (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 Onboard G45 ) 2.2
Asus P5Q-EM (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 8.2
Asus P5Q-EM (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 Onboard G45 ) 2.4
ASUS M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 9.3
ASUS M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 onboard HD 3300 video) 3.1
ASUS M3A78-T (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 9.9
ASUS M3A78-T (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 onboard HD 3300 video) 3.1
Foxconn A7DA-S (AMD 790GX 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ GF 8800GTS 320MB) 9.7
Foxconn A7DA-S (AMD 790GX 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ onboard HD 3300 video) 2.3
MSI 785GM-E65 (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE GTS 250) 25.9
MSI 785GM-E65 (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE IGP HD 4200) 2.6
ASUS M4A785TD-V Evo (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE GTS 250) 25.7
ASUS M4A785TD-V Evo (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE IGP HD 4200) 2.4
Biostar Tpower N750 (NF 750a 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ GF 8800GTS 320MB) 7.1
Biostar Tpower N750 (NF 750a 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ onboard nF 750a video) 1.4

A faster videocard and processor makes it difficult to compare the performance of the MSI 785GM-E65 and the Asus M4A785TD-V EVO to the other motherboards on this list. Running the IGP by itself reveals decent scores for the AMD 785G chipset and the Radeon HD 4200, but it still can't compete with the faster-clocked Radeon HD 3300 IGP. Again though, none of these IGPs are capable of running this game at playable settings, even at the lowest resolutions.

Crysis 1.2

Source: Electronic Arts

Crysis is a science fiction first-person shooter developed by Crytek. Crysis uses Microsoft's new API, DirectX 10 for graphics rendering, and includes the new engine—the CryEngine 2—that is the successor to Far Cry's CryEngine. CryEngine 2 is among the first engines to use the DirectX 10 framework of Windows Vista, but can also run using DirectX 9, both on Vista and Windows XP.

PCSTATS Benchmark ReportCrysis 1.2 (no AA) - DirectX10
1024x768 LQ Points Ranking
Intel DG45ID (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 69.7
Intel DG45ID (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 Onboard G45 ) 6.81
Asus P5Q-EM (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 23.32
Asus P5Q-EM (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 Onboard G45 ) 3.5
ASUS M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 22.66
ASUS M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 onboard HD 3300 video) 24.95
ASUS M3A78-T (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 23.77
ASUS M3A78-T (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 onboard HD 3300 video) 24.94
Foxconn A7DA-S (AMD 790GX 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ GF 8800GTS 320MB) 49.77
Foxconn A7DA-S (AMD 790GX 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ onboard HD 3300 video) 24.96
MSI 785GM-E65 (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE GTS 250) 45.18
MSI 785GM-E65 (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE IGP HD 4200) 3.56
ASUS M4A785TD-V Evo (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE GTS 250) 45.36
ASUS M4A785TD-V Evo (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE IGP HD 4200) 3.39
Biostar Tpower N750 (NF 750a 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ GF 8800GTS 320MB) 21.41
Biostar Tpower N750 (NF 750a 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ onboard nF 750a video) 3.4
1600x1200 HQ Points Ranking
Intel DG45ID (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 14.91
Intel DG45ID (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 Onboard G45 ) 1.68
Asus P5Q-EM (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 12.92
Asus P5Q-EM (Intel G45 200/800 C2D E6750 Onboard G45 ) 2.8
ASUS M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 13.14
ASUS M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 onboard HD 3300 video) 3.58
ASUS M3A78-T (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 GF 8800GTS 320MB) 11.81
ASUS M3A78-T (AMD 790GX 200/1066 AM3 Phenom II X3 720 onboard HD 3300 video) 3.6
Foxconn A7DA-S (AMD 790GX 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ GF 8800GTS 320MB) 11.84
Foxconn A7DA-S (AMD 790GX 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ onboard HD 3300 video) 3.21
MSI 785GM-E65 (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE GTS 250) 37.32
MSI 785GM-E65 (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE IGP HD 4200) 2.74
ASUS M4A785TD-V Evo (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE GTS 250) 37.37
ASUS M4A785TD-V Evo (AMD 785G 200/1066 AM3 Phenom X4 955BE IGP HD 4200) 2.16
Biostar Tpower N750 (NF 750a 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ GF 8800GTS 320MB) 12.64
Biostar Tpower N750 (NF 750a 200/800 AM2 X2 5000+ onboard nF 750a video) 1.66

While the AMD 790GX motherboards managed to do quite well in Crysis at low quality settings, the AMD 785G chipsets are clearly not cut out for playing Crysis without the help of a graphics card. Things get worse at higher resolutions, where every IGP becomes completely unplayable.

However when paired up with a decent $150 videocard (like the Geforce GTS 250), scores shoot up into the playable range, and suddenly Crysis goes from slide show to a gorgeous FPS shooter. This has been a pretty exhaustive article, but we've almost gotten to the bottom of AMD's new 785G chipset. We're going to put everything together on the next page...

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Contents of Article: MSI 785GM-E65
 Pg 1.  MSI 785GM-E65 Motherboard and AMD 785G Chipset Review
 Pg 2.  ATI Stream and HD Acceleration
 Pg 3.  High-Definition Content Playback Tests
 Pg 4.  MSI 785GM-E65 Motherboard Highlights
 Pg 5.  Overclocking the Motherboard and IGP, BIOS screenshots
 Pg 6.  Motherboard Benchmarks: Test System Specs & SYSmark 2007
 Pg 7.  Motherboard Benchmarks: Sandra 2009
 Pg 8.  Motherboard Benchmarks: PCMark Vantage
 Pg 9.  Motherboard IGP Benchmarks: 3DMark06
 Pg 10.  Motherboard IGP Benchmarks: 3DMark Vantage, FEAR
 Pg 11.  — DX10 Motherboard IGP Benchmarks: Call of Juarez, Crysis
 Pg 12.  Conclusions: AMD 785G - the next IGP Evolution?

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